Another thing I had to work out with Paul (my editor) (no, saying “my editor” still hasn’t gotten old) was how to work together.
I do all my writing in Scrivener, a fantastic tool for creating, but when it comes to working with alpha readers or an editor, not so much. Remember here that my work with Paul and my publisher is still very much in the world of indie publishing with little or no budget!
After trial and error, it seems that I have found a consensus: Google Docs. Here’s the key features that I believe are making it so:
Ability to ask and answer questions: Is this the word you meant? This doesn’t make sense, what were you trying to say? etc. Docs lets you highlight a chunk of text as a question, have a 2-way conversation, and ultimately mark it as “resolved.”
Concurrently working on the same document at the same time: This is a little one, but extremely helpful – I don’t have to worry about stepping on an alpha reader or editor’s work when I am responding and updating. None of the save the file and let the other person know which version they should look at. Handily even marks changes made by the other collaborators. You can also open two copies of the same document if you need to look at something else without wanting to lose your place.
Chat: If you do happen to be working on the same document at the same time… you can online chat with your collaborators (in my case my editor) and sort things out on the fly. I didn’t realize you could even do this until Paul (my editor) (nope, still not getting old) hit me up one evening while we were both looking at the same doc.
Versions and showing changes: This one seems pretty obvious, the the cool part for me is never having to think about it – it just does. While not as powerful as revisions in Word, the ability to look at versions created over time is a great help in seeing what was changed. And not having to fuss around with other settings is a plus.
Where is the Save button??? I add this mainly because I have had to get used to the autosave. Even more dramatic, before I really knew about Google Docs, was not understanding why my daughter lost a term paper when borrowing my computer and using Word. “What? You didn’t hit the save button?” “Dad, what is a save button? (big mood)” Point taken.
Mechanically, it is a little bit of work to use Google docs effectively. Specifically, I export my writing from Scrivener in Word format to my Google Drive (which is shared with my editor)(…), open the document using Google Docs, re-save it in the new format. Then I blow away the original Word Doc. Going back the other way, I make a Scrivener snapshot of the scene and copy/paste the updated content back in. A little bit of work, but well worth it in my opinion!
Apologies for the long post. If you are still with me, my publisher (also not getting old) is planning a Kickstarter for the end of July to publish my short stories. For more information, and to sign up to be notified when it goes live, head over to: www.brymlight.com
I’ve been compiling Scrivener to other formats easily enough but couldn’t figure out how to ever get it back in Scrivener effectively. What is, and how do you make a Scrivener snapshot? This sounds like the solution I’ve been looking for. (You know, instead of copy/paste 80K words…) Thanks! Great post!
It would be nice if the Scrivener folks added gdoc to their compile options. I tried a couple other formats but kept going back to Word because it preserved almost all the formatting -the rest attribute to my own inability to setup the compile settings properly! Compiling in the newest version is far better. It has gone from nearly impossible to almost understandable – I big improvement.
Snapshots in Scrivener are awesome. You need to try them! Snapshots are one of the options at the top of the right hand pane next to your writing. Its there with notes, bookmarks, meta data, etc. A little camera icon. It will take a snapshot of your current scene (or more if you have more selected) with a timestamp and a description you enter. You can then do things like comparing changes, rolling back to a prior version, etc. I usually take a snapshot before doing any major changes to the text like incorporating feedback or rewriting, etc. I have also used the statuses to do things like marking scenes that have been through my writing group by creating a custom status.
I think there are probably better ways to get things back into Scrivener besides copy/paste. That works for me because I can review a scene, copy it, take my snapshot, do a command-a to select all the text, then paste. Then I set the status as having been reviewed. Multiple steps, but really from a workflow helps me make sure I have everything in sync. I used to look at the font to tell what has been updated, but found the status working much better for me.
Thank you for your comment!!!
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Well… That just changed EVERYTHING! I never clicked on the “i” icon. I thought it was just a help/information thing. I have so much to figure out now! Thank you for answering!
Oh my! You hadn’t clicked the “i” icon?!?! That’s going to keep you busy for a while!!!
I also use Aeon Timeline which let’s you synchronize standard (out of the box) Scrivener meta data and Aeon Timeline meta data. You map the two. Pretty cool, but the learning curve on Aeon is steep!
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IKR?! I’m excited to explore those features.
I tried Aeon Timeline. I really liked it, but couldn’t see using it enough for the cost.
I am still giving a try. I am hoping it is flexible enough to handle my messed up timelines! Drawing program worked, but was a bit tedious. https://dwbeyer.com/2012/09/22/timelines
Any suggestions welcome!
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I left a comment over there! 🙂